Drone Issue

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:06

We have a customer request to look into a possible solution for blocking commercial and user’s Drones entering a site. Has anyone deployed a solution which can provide a barrier against Drone flying in secure areas.

I am after a solution which,
• Creates a barrier between a Handheld or other device and a Flying Drone.
• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.
• Need to be sure that the solution caters for various heights.

Any solution or technology identified would be great.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38660

Sniper

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:09

H&K MP5

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:10

DavPaz wrote:

Sniper

I suggested that, to blank looks.

Also the goalkeeper system from a ship was pooh poohed too. (google it it is amazing, it shreds missiles under a hail of lead)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0ZAGOuaqg

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:10

Heh, I think the prison service need this too.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:11

Pop up copper net

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

When you say a secure site is this site actually categorised airspace such that even aeroplanes may not fly over it? If not then I think they would be on pretty shaky legal ground even where the drone operator was too. You don't own the sky above your property and you have no more right to knock drones out of the sky than you do aeroplanes.

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:14

Big signs stating that your list of requirements will happen. Drone operators won't put their baby's in that sort of peril.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:15

markg wrote:

When you say a secure site is this site actually categorised airspace such that even aeroplanes may not fly over it? If not then I think they would be on pretty shaky legal ground even where the drone operator was too. You don't own the sky above your property and you have no more right to knock drones out of the sky than you do aeroplanes.

Think MoD sites....

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:16

Build a mega-done over the site. Then drones can fly about all they want but never get close to the sensitive subject.

flis · **Joined:** 26th May, 2008 **Posts:** 3333

Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!

devilman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:18

Suggest they build a wall and get the drone users to pay for it.
(Worked for Trump)

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

KovacsC wrote:

• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.

Ihttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/radi ... aw/jammers

Quote:

Deliberate Interference
The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence.

GL,HF

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:20

Isn't blocking radio signals against the law?

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:20

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14416

flis wrote:

Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!

Wouldn't an EMP disrupt your own communications too though? You'd need something like a targeted blast of anti-radio wave to stop communications with the drone.

I'd suggest playing Radio 1 funnelled down a long tube of toilet rolls taped together at the drone. The ONLY downsides would be you'd need someone to man the toilet roll tube 24 hours.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.

Ihttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/radi ... aw/jammers

Quote:

Deliberate Interference
The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence.

GL,HF

There are some systems being trialled around airports. So I guess exceptions to that are made and no doubt the MoD would be able to get something in place but why are they asking their IT supplier when any number of defence contractors are working on these sorts of countermeasures? It seems bizarre.

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:26

Apes with bolas to man the site 24/7

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:27

Angry kestrels with technophobia.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:28

we get asked lots of things

TheVision · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:29

Just get Zardoz to fly his drone over the sight.

I've seen his videos and the way he flies with reckless abandon for his own safety and the safety of others would mean no one with an expensive drone would dare fly close to him.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

krazywookie wrote:

Angry kestrels with technophobia.

Bald eagles rather than kestrels but yeah, already being done:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/dutch ... les-2016-9

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:31

FUCKING LEAVING ME HANGING DOC

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:31

Tell all the drone operators that the site is somewhere else. Towcester for example.

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:32

markg wrote:

krazywookie wrote:

Angry kestrels with technophobia.

Bald eagles rather than kestrels but yeah, already being done:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/dutch ... les-2016-9

That's fucking amazing

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Grim... wrote:

FUCKING LEAVING ME HANGING DOC

\o

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22392

You need to ask Gazchap, he's the expert on drones going where they shouldn't.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14416

Anti-drone Drone fitted with whirly blades.

This is the future of Robot Wars.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:39

TheVision wrote:

Just get Zardoz to fly his drone over the sight.

I've seen his videos and the way he flies with reckless abandon for his own safety and the safety of others would mean no one with an expensive drone would dare fly close to him.

Or a very very big wall.

Or curtains.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:49

Saturnalian wrote:

flis wrote:

Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!

Wouldn't an EMP disrupt your own communications too though? You'd need something like a targeted blast of anti-radio wave to stop communications with the drone.

I'd suggest playing Radio 1 funnelled down a long tube of toilet rolls taped together at the drone. The ONLY downsides would be you'd need someone to man the toilet roll tube 24 hours.

CoD taught me that your EMPs only damage the enemy, because reasons.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 13:14

*looks at Quad and radio gear*
*Buys lots of small levers and a chair*
*Starts training mice*

krazywookie · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 13:16

Zardoz wrote:

*looks at Quad and radio gear*
*Buys lots of small levers and a chair*
*Starts training mice*

but the eagles, man!

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 13:32

krazywookie wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

*looks at Quad and radio gear*
*Buys lots of small levers and a chair*
*Starts training mice*

but the eagles, man!

No one said this was gonna be easy.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11898

Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

TheVision · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 17:10

Because they know he's got access to this forum and that we know everything!

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 17:10

Bobbyaro wrote:

Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

Taking control back.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 17:11

Ministry of Dork

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 17:12

These mice aren't doing very well at all.

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 19:55

Trooper wrote:

You need to ask Gazchap, he's the expert on drones going where they shouldn't.

Don't know much about stopping them going where they shouldn't - if anything I'm the last person to ask

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2016 21:57

Bobbyaro wrote:

Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

Because I am awesome.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

KovacsC wrote:

Bobbyaro wrote:

Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

Because I am awesome.

...which is why you're asking beex to do your homework?!

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

It's not what you know, it's who you know. And what they know.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Sat Nov 26, 2016 15:55

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bobbyaro wrote:

Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

Because I am awesome.

...which is why you're asking beex to do your homework?!

Yes, of course.

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