Be Excellent To Each Other

Davpaz, who are you? You've posted nothing of help or explanation, which looks pretty dodgy.

And thank you for doing that, Mr Dave. I started trying to compile one last night but got myself confused as the iPad doesn't flip between tabs so well.

What? Why would you be informed of a passive action swap? There's no specification to inform anyone and its passive, so no action on your part is required. What are you talking about? And importantly, who do you claim to be?

Also, Whether Mr Russell has a passive action or not would prove nothing as they are not written anywhere in the displayed rules. The truth be known, I don't even know if they've been taken into account in the game as I don't get a 'result' from the names I submit and have seen no effects I can make out, anyway, but it wasn't clear when we wrote the roles which part of the roles as written we'd see in the rules.

So, Saturnalian, Zaphod, Grim.. And Davpaz.

WHO ARE YOU?

I've told you already, I'm bloody Solaire!

I picked out the people who had played Dark Souls to say "Praise the Sun" cause it's geeky and a little gay.

Dark Souls.

Oops, sorry, I hadn't seen you say that. Technically I think that comes under that metadata rule, but cool beans.

because clearly I can't keep track:

Name - Solaire of Astora - Saturnalian
Name : The Justice Droid - Curio
Name: Dr Alice Roberts - Mimi
Name: BATMAN! - Mr Russ, Bobby
Name: The White Knight
Name: Curtain twitcher - Myp
Name: NightCunt. - Cras


Name: Sir Robust Manly
Name - Bert
Name : Madame Palm

Neutral:

Name: John Smith - Mr Dave

People who have not roleclaimed: Grim..., davpaz, zaphod79

did you even read that post, and the one below it? That was a quote from mimi.

Pretty sure that's a roleclaim.

And nobody has countered any of them except Batman. Grim... hasn't claimed a role at all. And as I said, there aren't any townie ones left. The only reason to stay quiet is that he thought he'd put himself above suspicion by offing Gazchap (and helpfully putting one of their own in the dead thread where they would probably be useful).

So, I think we have to assume that either one (or even both?) Mr Russell or Bobbyaro are Mafia plus two of the following: Grim..., davpaz, zaphod79 (or just one if it did transpire that both Bobby and Russell were.)

As far as backing up of claims and defence of groups, it looks a bit like Maybe Grim... and Bobby have some common ground. Davpaz appears to be refusing any help or information at all.

The missing town role left to claim is:

Name: The White Knight
Night Power: Every night, the White Knight will bravely protect a poor innocent with his awesome powers. This muffling cloying protection will nullify any night actions that the other player has or is being targeted by.
Allegiance : Town

Then why not just comeout and say it?
Also why is he saying later stuff, like "who am ?"?

(Aside: On the first day you said there were 3 mafia, I also thought there were 3 mafia, but there is clearly 4 in the list. Is there any chance someone changed (or changed the role description or something? ... and could this be DavPaz being confused?)

That post in answer to Cras about DavPAz.

OK, yes, I can see what you mean, but then why when outright asked will he not say? I can't see how being coy is helping. I think your point about Grim... is a fair one, though I again don't know why he wouldn't role claim and use the Gazchap defence as an iron back-up?

Let's kill Hitler Zaphod. He's way scummy.

If Grim is scum then Bobby is also scum.

If Russ is scum then someone else is also scum. Not sure who. Not even sure how that can be, since Bobby cleared Grim. Would it be DP?

On that basis, is it more likely that Bobby and Grim are the scum types, along with Z?

T'is what I classed as a very strong hint.

I really want Grim to come and explain himself, but he usually just backs off when being accused of stuff and hopes it blows over, so I doubt he'll post again before the end of the day.

you definitely didn't target me on night one?

Nope.

Gaz - Cras - Bobby.

Meta and wrong.

Hello, I'm Madame Palm. Today I'm in the Mafia, tomorrow I'll be town again.

Explain.

So, it appears that the Mafia are either:

Russ, zaphod79 and Grim...

OR

Bobby, zaphod79 and Grim...

Now, Grim... is apparently somewhere between the two worlds.

In lieu of an explanation, we know that one of Russ/Bobby is evil and the other is Batman. Either way, zaphod is bad.

[vote:zaphod79]

Remember when you thought it said Madame Palm was a townie? It did. I get changed around.

So how does that work? How do you know when you're turned back? Who else is in the Mafia? Do you have useful information? At the moment you're roleclaiming Mafia.

And obviously telling you who is in the Mafia is currently against my win condition.

Right now.

Oh, and I know because Trooper tells me.

[vote:Grim...]

You're full of it!

Don't blame me, it wasn't my idea.

And here was me thinking that we all got our own roles.

Mine had to be changed.

Fair enough, but if you can't or won't give us more info on how or why it works, I'm sure you can't be too upset if we lynch you.

It's too do with people posting smiles.

Whoops, didn't mean to post that yet.

If there's more "happy" smilies than sad or confused smilies the I switch. This also counts in the dead zone, which I can see and post in. The latter part was how I originally wrote the character.

In true "he's a Witch" style, if more than one person uses a hat smilie I die, which would prove what I'm saying but not in the greatest way.

Especially with that spelling.

So why didn't you tell us when you were last town?

And I like the 'including the dead zone' just so we can't check on smilie count.

I flipped from town to Mafia on day 2. It was a bit late to save GC by then though.

Well, that could be arranged

Hi. I'm your biggest fan.

Even if what you say is true, we have no control over who posts what in the dead thread, so a 'bidding war' of smilies to attempt to switch you back would be entirely pointless. So you'll probably stay mafia, so I'll carry on voting for you.

I'm not posting a hat smiley, because it would be against your win condition to post about it if it were true, so instead it probably does something the mafia want. Like turning Curio into a zombie or something.

Also, why would you know now that you'll be town again tomorrow? You said when you switched on day 2 that you didn't know in time to save GC, so how come you now know well before the end of the day? Of course, if you're telling the truth about the switching, today you have a Mafia win condition, so you'd lie about whether or not you'll be switching back to town.

[vote:Grim...]

I think I already was, but it deserves reiterating.

I think the Mafia are fairly trained to losing right now. I just want to jump ship before they do

Resigned*

You've got a Mafia win condition, so that doesn't wash.

Why?

The only way that mashes sense is if I'm not mafia.

Makes*

If you've got a Mafia win condition, you can't be playing to switch sides and hope the Mafia lose.

MASH SENSE.

Why not? I assure you I can.

If not, what the fuck is going on? Am I trying to get killed?