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 Post subject: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 13:57 
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SDG is gone! She ended the game with £150.
She was a townie.

Individual player league table:
1. Nickachu £300
2. SDG £150
3. Gazchap £125
4. Slightly Green £100




[playerlist]
KovacsC
DavPaz
Cras
Curiosity
Grim...
bobbyaro
british nervoso
saturnalian
Mr Russell
Zeppo
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Player Totals:
KovacsC £300
DavPaz £100
Cras £50
Curiosity £350
Grim… £325
bobbyaro £400
british nervoso £100
saturnalian £500
Mr Russell £450
Zeppo £150

There was 1 player who did not use their night action.

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With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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This isn't going very well.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Cras - did you forget again?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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To be honest, there isn't any information whatsoever to go on. We're reliant on luck. Even right at the end there will be a money grab by both sides, so that won't tell us anything either.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:03 
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No, he must have been stolen from again, as he was on 0 yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I only forgot the first night. The other's I've deliberately avoided doing anything, as I said yesterday, to avoid being a target.

I still want to [vote:Zeppo] though, because of his wilful misunderstanding of who the Mafia would target.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I didn't earn, I must have been donated to.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:06 
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Ah yes, true.

The only information I can think of that we can go on is that the Mafia probably want to kill townies with lots of money but they killed SDG yesterday even though the following people had more cash:

bobbyaro £300
british nervoso £300
saturnalian £300
Mr Russell £300

So one of them is quite possibly a bad'un. It's thin, but it's something.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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When I say "more" I mean "the most".

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I didn't earn, I must have been donated to.

Hahaha. Really?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:24 
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WTF? I made no money!

DAMN YOU, OBAMA!


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:31 
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WTF? I made no money!

DAMN YOU, OBAMA!


Did you try?

Because you were on £100, and to stay on £100 after having invested would mean someone had stolen £100 from you (of your new £200 total) which would take you back to £100.

So yes, someone stole off you.

Probably Obama.

Now I have that right in my own head, there was no point in this post. Move along, people.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Saturnalian must have stolen off British Nervoso.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:35 
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No, I definitely invested.

British Nervoso gave me £100 and then someone stole from him.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:36 
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I'm working it out with my spreadsheet right now. Be prepared to be A-MAZE.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:50 
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Overnight Actions as follows:

1) I INVESTS.
2) British Nervoso DONATES £100 to me.

Next one is tricky but a certainty:

3) EITHER: Zeppo INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from Zeppo OR sdg INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from sdg.
4) Depending on (3) above EITHER Zeppo donates £50 to Cras OR sdg DONATES £50 to Cras.

Next bit is pot luck:

5) KovacsC, Curio, Grim..., Bobby are all up £100. One of these STOLE from British Nervoso. The rest have INVESTS.

6) DavPaz makes no action. Again. He cannot have invested and been stolen from because even though the players in 5) are all +£100 there is one player who we KNOW did not use their overnight action. He's therefore lying.

These are facts people. Maths don't lie.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:53 
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Cras wrote:
I still want to [vote:Zeppo] though, because of his wilful misunderstanding of who the Mafia would target.


Oh, you :roll:

I've got to agree with Grim's appraisal of the rich ones, so [vote:Mr Russell] once more!

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Saturnalian wrote:
Overnight Actions as follows:

British Nervoso DONATES £100 to me.


How do you know who has donated? Have I missed a post?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 14:59 
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First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Now GazChap has gone, Grim... obviously stole from me as I was vociferous against him yesterday.

[vote: Grim...]

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I'm not convinced by Saturnalian's logic.

Show your working.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Saturnalian wrote:
6) DavPaz makes no action. Again. He cannot have invested and been stolen from because even though the players in 5) are all +£100 there is one player who we KNOW did not use their overnight action. He's therefore lying.


This can't be right, because I made no night action and Trooper said only one person made no night action.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Shit, you're right. That works.

Saturnalian wrote:
Overnight Actions as follows:

1) I INVESTS.
2) British Nervoso DONATES £100 to me.

Next one is tricky but a certainty:

3) EITHER: Zeppo INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from Zeppo OR sdg INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from sdg.
4) Depending on (3) above EITHER Zeppo donates £50 to Cras OR sdg DONATES £50 to Cras.

Next bit is pot luck:

5) KovacsC, Curio, Grim..., Bobby are all up £100. ONEof these STOLE from British Nervoso. ONE stole from DavPaz. The rest have INVESTS.

6) DavPaz makes no action. Again. He cannot have invested and been stolen from because even though the players in 5) are all +£100 there is one player who we KNOW did not use their overnight action. He's therefore lying.

These are facts people. Maths don't lie when they're worked out properly.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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NON-STEALTH EDIT!

Saturnalian wrote:
Shit, you're right. That works.

Saturnalian wrote:
Overnight Actions as follows:

1) I INVESTS.
2) British Nervoso DONATES £100 to me.

Next one is tricky but a certainty:

3) EITHER: Zeppo INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from Zeppo OR sdg INVESTS and Mr Russell steals from sdg.
4) Depending on (3) above EITHER Zeppo donates £50 to Cras OR sdg DONATES £50 to Cras.

Next bit is pot luck:

5) KovacsC, Curio, Grim..., Bobby are all up £100. ONEof these STOLE from British Nervoso. ONE stole from DavPaz. The rest have INVESTS.

6) DavPaz makes no action. Again. He cannot have invested and been stolen from because even though the players in 5) are all +£100 there is one player who we KNOW did not use their overnight action. He's therefore lying.

These are facts people. Maths don't lie when they're worked out properly.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Here's my working out.

Which direction will it point - who knows... Let's find out together.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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You need to take the photo with the volume buttons facing the floor in order for this site to put it the right way up.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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oOoooOOoooOOOooOOoo

Dead thread please.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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@British Nervoso:

Saturnalian wrote:
First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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can a mod do the dead thread thingy for all the deadies please. I don't have that sort of power


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I still think Craster is well dodgy.

[vote:Cras]

I don't think that limiting the money supply helps the Town, and he's just the most nakedly self serving of all the people.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Trooper wrote:
can a mod do the dead thread thingy for all the deadies please. I don't have that sort of power


Done.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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I still think Craster is well dodgy.

[vote:Cras]

I don't think that limiting the money supply helps the Town, and he's just the most nakedly self serving of all the people.


It doesn't hurt the town either. The more money available early on, the more the mafia can steal. As I said before, with townies outnumbering mafia, anyone who steals and is on the town side is crazy. What did you do last night?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Cras wrote:
The more money available early on, the more the mafia can steal.


So it could be the case then that if the Mafia donate money to others it will have the benefit of reducing suspicion on the donating player and they can steal it back later on with interest?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Saturnalian wrote:
@British Nervoso:

Saturnalian wrote:
First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.

I donated £100 to you.

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Cras wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I still think Craster is well dodgy.

[vote:Cras]

I don't think that limiting the money supply helps the Town, and he's just the most nakedly self serving of all the people.


It doesn't hurt the town either. The more money available early on, the more the mafia can steal. As I said before, with townies outnumbering mafia, anyone who steals and is on the town side is crazy. What did you do last night?


I invested, as you're the only person I am currently worried about, and you weren't worth stealing from.

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British Nervoso wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
@British Nervoso:

Saturnalian wrote:
First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.

I donated £100 to you.


Why?

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Curiosity wrote:
you're the only person I am currently worried about


Ah, don't be, man. I'll be just fine.

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Curiosity wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
@British Nervoso:

Saturnalian wrote:
First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.

I donated £100 to you.


Why?

Because if I'd invested again I'd be at the top or close to the top of the leaderboard, thus making myself a target for the bad guys.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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British Nervoso wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
@British Nervoso:

Saturnalian wrote:
First of all, tell me what action you claim to have taken.

I donated £100 to you.


MATH-ATTACK! POW POW POW!






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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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British Nervoso wrote:
Now GazChap has gone, Grim... obviously stole from me as I was vociferous against him yesterday.

[vote: Grim...]

Totally did. Totally will do again tonight. Totally no different from you donating to Craster - unless you're on the same team, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Grim... wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
Now GazChap has gone, Grim... obviously stole from me as I was vociferous against him yesterday.

[vote: Grim...]

Totally did. Totally will do again tonight. Totally no different from you donating to Craster - unless you're on the same team, of course.


Y'see, this just doesn't work at all.

DONATE comes before STEAL.

If BN donated £50, he'd be on £250 and you'd receive £125.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Saturnalian wrote:
No, I definitely invested.

British Nervoso gave me £100 and then someone stole from him.

Which is more likely, you stole 200 of BN, or he gave you 100 and someone stole 100 off him?


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BN didn't donate to me, did he? He just said up thread that he donated to Saturnalian, but didn't say how much.

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Grim... wrote:
you donating to Craster

Ok, now you're making things up.

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He just said up thread that he donated to Saturnalian, but didn't say how much.

Yes I did.

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Grim... is so obviously scum! If I'm wrong, make me walk off the top floor of the Trump Building tomorrow.

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British Nervoso wrote:
Cras wrote:
He just said up thread that he donated to Saturnalian, but didn't say how much.

Yes I did.


Ah, you did. My bad.

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Grim... is so obviously scum! If I'm wrong, make me walk off the top floor of the Trump Building tomorrow.


I'm not convinced he is, but the latter part does appeal.

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