Be Excellent To Each Other

You wake, most of you.

That was... enjoyable.

A monitor is revealed on the wall of each of your rooms.
Shown is Davpaz, he is standing in a room with an unlabelled button on one wall, 1 button labelled "intercom" on another wall, and 1 button labelled "private intercom" on the third wall, and on the fourth wall 16 buttons.
He looks up, you see a gas entering the room. He collapses.
The screen goes black, followed by four messages.



The monitor shows another room.
Shown is Zaphod79, he is standing in a room with 16 buttons on on wall, 1 button labelled "intercom" on another wall, and 1 button labelled "private intercom" on the third wall.
He looks up, you see a gas entering the room. He collapses.
The screen goes black, followed by three messages.



Continue.


[playerlist]
Slightly Green
Grim...
sdg
thevision
Mr Russell
Malc
Bobbyaro
Saturnalian
nickachu
Mr Dave
KovacsC
[/playerlist]

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With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch

Day 1 ends Wednesday at 2pm, or sooner if there is a majority vote.

Can a mod do the dead thread access please.

Well that's a pretty good result all round.

Initial thougth; why does Davpaz have 4 messages?

Malc

oki, I am definitely a investigator, and just happened to get role-blockers on night one and two. Last night I pressed button 7 and got the result

NOTHING
KILL

but as Davpaz is now dead that information is not useful

on the plus side I can hopefully find something useful out in later nights.

Told ya all Zaphod smelled fishy, damn cthulhu cultists.

So my suspicions of Grim and now gone, he seems to have the same ability as myself so yay.

With regards to whom to vote for today, I have my personal suspicions but nothing hard to go on at the moment, anyone else?

Hopefully that will reduce the night kills.

I got blocked again. Bah.

Still though - that was a good night. I'm a bit afeared that the cult can kill, though.

We need to pick up where we left off yesterday. I know that Russell and Nicachu were FOS'd but I can't really remember why?

Anyone got any other ideas?

yesterday zaphod and cras were suspects and cras fingered davpaz.

I think we need to try and work out who was defending those 3 people.

Also it might be that the mafia didn't want cras talking so jumped on him quickly at the end to silence him.

Malc

Just a question, how exactly do you know you were roleblocked? Vague terms if you will. Button jammed? Big flashy lights? Something very strange?

What do we think of this.

DP was a mafia, does this clear Russ and Nick, and what's this "without any buttons" thing



That sounds like more buttons to me. Is this just a case of there being lies and discontent in the mafia ranks or is it cras being deceitful and using davpaz as a sacrifice to save the rest of the mafia?

Malc

I am confused by Zaphod's ability to kill.
I am also confused by Davpaz's ability to kill.
Also, that seems like a good night over all.

I'm not sure Craster would be so stupid as to do something so readily disproved.

Malc, how many buttons are in your room?

The nothing probably refers to his single button.

Kill refers to the set of 16.

Mafia may well refer to either win condition or who the other button communicates with, depending on how much you believe Craster when talking about win condition... I don't know, and I don't really want to take anything as granted.

Okay, I think I understand, what is going on.

Right Cras said yesterday that there were Mafia left to lynch him while he was yet to be lynched. Which tells us that one of these is Mafia:

malc: 1 (zaphod79)
zaphod79: 6 (Malc, Cras, sdg, Slightly Green, Saturnalian, Grim...)
Not voted: 3 (davpaz, nickachu, kovacsc)
cras: 4 (Bobbyaro, Mr Russell, Mr Dave, TheVision)

We know DavPaz was and Zaphod wasn't
Craster said that Nickachu and Russ weren't
Grim... and SG are investigators (doesn't mean not mafia, but ...)

Which leaves us with KovacsC, Malc and SDG as potential mafia.

I have 16 buttons on one wall, and the intercom button on another.

I have pressed the last 3 buttons (button 16 on night 1, button 15 on night 2 and button 14 on night 3).

Tonight I will push button 13 and so on.

I don't know if anything happened, I certainly wasn't informed they did anything.

Malc

That's assuming Cras told the truth...

Malc

I would say the most likely members of the mafia are DP (which we know was) saturnalian, SG and Grim...

We've seen that people can have 2 roles (nothing and kill) (cult and kill) so I don't think we can rule out people who are investigators.

Of the three left, I think Saturnalian is dodgy (looking at bobby's list he hasn't been crossed out, but wasn't included in the list of suspects, so I wouldn't be surprised if bobby was bad too)

[vote:Saturnalian]

Malc

Oh no I ain't. Is this rebuttal enough?

Personally, I'm worried about Grim... since his radio doesn't go *CRZZT* anymore. Ok, so Zaphod pointed it out, but it was a great bit of observation. He might have started off not but we know that there are lists out there and teams and I shouldn't be surprised if someone has gotten to him.

Oh, and KovacS. That guy hasn't said a word. Y'know, who'd keep under the radar like that? Cult leader. Or summuts. That's what I think anyway.

So imma say [vote: KovacS]

[vote: KovacsC] even.

I'm happy to vote for someone who isn't talking but I don't think we should all pile on straight away (not that we have...) but anyway, let's see how the day pans out.

The button won't go in. It feels like it's blocked.


It must have got fixed overnight.

(Or it could be I am on Holiday and spent the day on the beach with the kids )

I am vanilla I am afraid, so you will need to look elsewhere for mafia.

Are you in a purple room?

Can't post much right now but I will later. Main thoughts at the moment, it's worrying that the cult can kill but hopefully there is only 1 or 2 mafia left. I don't think we can trust Grim, I think it's likely he has been targeted by the cult. I think we should reexamine what zap of said yesterday/who he voted for or defended. I am puzzled by craters role claim, I can't see that he would have expected claiming as mafia with a kill role would save him but to then give up a team mate as well? I suspect that there was some sort of team plan there, maybe to protect someone else? If so, then bobby I would suggest the opposite of your list is actually true. No way is a mafia going to tell us their role, one team mate, and give such a clue to the other team mates. It's absurd. I'm going to try and have a quick read through before my battery dies so I can choose who to vote for.

Those roles in full:

Player 3
Mafia
Kill

Player 7
Mafia
Nothing
Kill

Player 9
Cult
Recruit

Player 10
Town
List

Player 13
Cult
Kill

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Notice something odd about 13 as compared to 9.

I'd suggest that "Recruit" is something that 9 could do, like Kill is something 13 could do. I'd similarly suggest that 13 was recruited, so the cult no longer has an ability to kill. (And as before even if they can recruit, so long as they can't kill, I'm not one to really care)

I'd also suggest that the mafia really don't seem much of a team like judging by yesterday, In the same way the town win condition doesn't seem to be a shared one.

I wonder quite what the non survive win conditions are, if any.

For what it's worth, it'd be nice if those who do seem to have the ability to kill (and I imagine you know who you are) actually only use it today if they actually need it to win.

As I for one am rather inclined to believe much of what Craster said given he gave up someone supposedly on his own team.

so what we know -




Grim investigated Room 3 on Night one and has been blocked for the next two nights (if he is to be believed)

I have investigated 3 different rooms, happened to find a role blocker on night one and another on night 2, then investigated Room 7 last night and found out Mr Paz was ebil, but he was then dead in the morning. So I know the location of 2 Role blockers, and neither of them have been killed, it is by no means conclusive proof that I am town but it is pretty solid if I do say so myself.

With the rest of you I have my suspicions.

Saturnalian has come up with some frankly strange theories which only seem to help Zaphod dig himself out of the BIG hole he dropped himself into, so BIG FoS on him.

Mr Dave

I am sorry but what! If that isn't cultist talk I don't know what is! First he is making the assumption that they don't have another kill role, but even if they don't I know I for one don't want to end up in a fucking cult, lets kill the bastards!
So big FoS on Mr Dave for that.

KovacsC has been very quiet the whole game.

All the above is my current brain dump, it may be liable to change hence me not voting as of yet.

My goal is to survive. Nothing more, nothing less. I find it highly doubtful that the cult have more than one killing role, therefore why should I care about them?

If I've read things right they are now capped to one member now anyway. If not, it probably still doesn't affect me. SO again, why should I care?

For that matter, unless you're willing to confirm a goal of anything other than survival, what threat does the cult pose to you?

Ok, so I've dug a hole for myself as my own thoughts don't accord with typical Mafiascum games but I haven't played as many of you lot.

Here's what I've been doing though :

I'm in a room.
It is a purple room.
I've got 16 buttons.
No furniture.
Nowt else.

Day 1 I pressed number 7: nothing happened.
Night 2 I pressed number 7 again: I was told if my first post that day said why I should win the game I could get a prize.
Day 3 my first post is exactly that: nothing happens.
Night 3 I pressed number 2: nothing happens.

Frankly, although I can't be sure, I think I'm just a vanilla town. My buttons don't work and I've got nothing else to do. I've pressed a button of someone who was killed the day after I pressed the button so it wasn't as a consequence. Was DP able to send me the "win a prize" message or someone else? Thinking about it, again it might be loony (again) but what if someone can send a secret message with a button press? A baddie could single you out if you bit. Which I did, and someone probably knows where I'm at, so I might get bumped off.

Also, Curiosity's room was purple and he was town. No one else has said they have a purple room. I've a feeling that there are some more purps but they're keeping stum. I think townies are purple but that's only a loony guess again. The only worry is that Zaphod said his room "turned purple" because he thought he'd been protected however Curiosity died in a purple room. Zaphod might have been lying and he was a baddie and also perceptive.

So that's me.

I still think Grim's sus and the radio getting fixed, or whatever, is dodgy.

I don't know what the purple room means but wasn't zaphod The first to mention purple after davpaz ? But that means there were four purple rooms' how does that work?

SG, you know who two role blockers are, it is very likely one of those is Mafia, care to provide any specifics?

Another interesting thought for you: Given Grim... was going to investigate room 15 the second night, and he got blocked, who would do the blocking?

Grim... Second question for you (and sorry if you've already stated this) - the nights after that night, did you continue to look at the same room, or try others? Because I got something of a headache by attempting to press button 15 last night.

I know what the room numbers are for both of the role blockers, I don't know who they are. I am reluctant to give the room numbers out as that will let the mafia know exactly who the role blocker is, as I am assuming they have the full list of players/rooms.

Sorry, of course, I wasn't thinking. :-)

I did 3, then 16, then 12.

So with the day slowly running down and little movement or people talking I will [vote:saturnalian] as he seemed to be defending Zaphod quite a lot the other day.

So you are going to trust Cras to say who are and arn't Mafia?

I think it leaves it open, I am not Mafia obviously

No I didn't. In fact, I'd voted for him right up until it was clear there wasn't going to be a majority vote and there was a self proclaimed Mafia with a kill role that was gaining momentum. I'd have voted for Zaphod today if he was still alive.

That doesn't mean that what he said about Grim... wasn't interesting or worthy of further probing. I've been clear about what I've done above.

No I didn't. In fact, I'd voted for him right up until it was clear there wasn't going to be a majority vote and there was a self proclaimed Mafia with a kill role that was gaining momentum. I'd have voted for Zaphod today if he was still alive.

That doesn't mean that what he said about Grim... wasn't interesting or worthy of further probing. I've been clear about what I've done above.

[vote:saturnalian] as I am town and he did seem to side with the cultist.

Although I am FOS Nic as he seems to be copying Russ.

Room Scum Day 4

VOTE UPDATE

kovacsc: 1 (Saturnalian)
saturnalian: 3 (Malc, Slightly Green, KovacsC)

Not voted: 7 (grim..., sdg, thevision, mr russell, bobbyaro, nickachu, mr dave)

With 11 players alive, 6 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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I am going to [vote :KovacsC] he is on my list and he is "town obviously". Apart from the fact that it is pretty clear by now that no one actually knows their role unless they can communicate with someone. His apparent certainty of his role implies he doesn't know what the townies don't. :~

My win condition is survive, so what can that mean other than vanilla?

It is possible that that is a win condition common to more than just town. We cant know. Hopefully more will be learned tonight on that ｃｏnt.

It is possible that that is a win condition common to more than just town. We cant know. Hopefully more will be learned tonight on that ｃｏnt.

Well if we are to believ what Cras said, his win condition was Survive also, and he was mafia...

Given his calling out.of davpaz, Im inclined.to believe him. Whether its common for all mafia or.he was special, I dont have any reason to think one way or the other.

If all they need to do is survive, then I would hope they wouldn't kill tonight... We will see.

So doesn't look like we will get a lynch today unless we get some movement, shame we seem to have lost all the talking players

yeah, has Russ even posted today?