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So, having evidently given up writing new games for the Nintendo Wii Sports box, Nintendo have realised an alternate plan.

Stick 6 year old Gamecube games in a box with "Wii" written on it and sell them for full price.

This is Pikmin (GC). It'll cost you £7 and work just fine on your wii. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-Pikmin ... 791&sr=1-1

This is what Nintendo want to sell you for £40 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-RVLPR9 ... videogames

Wow. Not even changing the box art is impressive.

It would, I suspect, have doubled the budget, not even including Pikmin 2 is even tighter.

Surely 'enhanced Wii control' is an oxymoron?

I think the wii controls might be quite good for pikmin, not 400% price increase good though.

Disgraceful. Makes me feel ok about my R4.

They've also got the slight issue that the combination of wii and numchuck is still a couple of buttons short isn't it?

I suspect, assuming the button thing isn't an issue, it'll literally just be "Point the wiimote to move the pointer instead of using the stick".

I am pretty sure Amazon (and other retailers) are not seriously charging that much for them.

If the price doesn't drop before launch, I will be astounded.

But yeah, they really dropped the ball, I know a lot of gamers would buy Pikmin 1+2 bundled together at full price, with bonus content, new controls and online.

If this is all they can do, I bet they will hardly sell any.

I suspect you'll get cheaper but you always do, the RRP though, is £40.

A lot of the time retailers just list things at made up prices before release, you got a source for these being rrp £40?

In Japan, at least, Pikmin is 3,800 yen, compared to 6,800 yen for other Nintendo games on the platform, so I would expect an RRP of £30 here, and you will probably be able to get them for around £25.

If that isn't the case (maybe because the Gamecube was relatively less successful here than Japan) then Nintendo are being dicks.

I can't see £40 being the price but then I couldn't see the DSi happening.

I was under the impression that these GameCube updates would be download only I didn't realise they would be disk releases. Although the limited hard drive space necessitates a disc release. But what a missed opportunity not to make use of online play for these updates...surely this is just the kind of friend based co-operative gaming that Nintendo are aiming for? Why do they limit progress to special projects instead of across the board?

Which will either mean 1.) it plummets in price relatively quickly to a reasonable price, or 2.) it'll be in short supply, only snapped up by collectors and 'scalpers' to sell on the secondary market when it becomes collectable.

In theory I'm very much in favour of Nintendo re-releasing cubegames for the Wii... Gives them a new audience, allows lapsed Nintendo fans to play older games that haven't been in the shops for five or six years, hopefully we'll get 480p mode added this time round, and the Wiimote will improve quite few older games if implemented properly. But... Adding fuck-all enhancements and charging 40 quid, the original asking price... No no no.

Nintendo don't give a fuck about gamers thought, they're making WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much money from the great unwashed, most of whom will have no fucking idea what a GC was.

FTFY

To be fair, I'd rather the "new wii casual" crowd played these quality titles than "Barbie Goes Wallpapering" or whatever the latest shovelware is.

No-one's being forced to buy it, and Nintendo saw an opportunity to make some easy money from some under appreciated gems. The 'Cube was an awesome console, and the Wii is the only console to have full, proper 100% backwards compat, even with peripherals. Why not exploit it?

What Sheepeh said. GameCube games always seemed relatively hard to come by up in the wilds of Lichfield.

FTFY

Because they could be spending their time coming up with something I've not already got. I'm the guy who stuck with the Cube, who bought all the early DS stuff regardless of quality because I really wanted the platform to succeeed. Got my Wii and I've purchased (but not kept, I've 5 now) over 40 titles since it came out.

And all I want is for them to release something better on the Wii than SCarface was, and I've not played it yet But they could be working on this instead of fucking Pikmin. It is lazy and will come back to haunt them.

To be fair, they are still making Pikmin 3

I had a Gamecube on launch day, a DS on launch day, and a Wii from our very own Gnomes. I have no problem with Nintendo using the Cube games to get people on to more "traditional" games, as they've openly admitted they have started to run out of ideas...the Wii, like the DS, was a but of a happy accident. They need to get as many people they've snared with the Wii to convert to "gamers" as possible to further monetise them and to make a bigger audience for the next wave of Nintendo stuff.

Surely the likes of Boom Blox would be doing that, if it were going to happen?

I mean, Zelda was a gamecube game with shoehorned controls, like these others they are proposing. It got traded in more than any title I've ever known. Mario Galaxy more or less bombed, we're still waiting for a decent FPS, Mario Strikers again not great business, Okami, REsi 4 - the better scoring titles are all just cube games with remote functionality or encripplement, whichever way you want to look at it. They certianly aren't worht buying again. Wiitards don't want games, they want kitten simulators and Wii sports again. People know now to get a 360 if they want proper games.

Supposedly, no-one's heard anything about it for some time and its original release date was suspiciously "February 2009" just like this is.

It does make me laugh that Yamauchi or whatever the ex president of Nintendo was called was always banging on and on about quality and now look what's going on...

How many star points does it come with?

A Nintendo representative will personally come round and remove the star points from your copy.

wekll, pikmin with a pointer would be great.. (pikmin 2 isfor me 1 of the top 5 games of the last gen), but this sounds like good way tio earn an easy buck.. and don't act all surprised, they want to maker money, andlots of people wouldn't buy a cube version anyway, it will settle on a normal price soon..

Nintendo games were always the most expensive anyway. Even in this generation, when they launch priced a bit less than xbox ones, they never go down much in price.

And i agree with whoever said that game is still better value than 99% of other wii games. I suppose Metroid Prime is next, and that is a great opportunity for such a game to reach a larger audience.

Nintendo estimate the 'Cube remake games will sell for £29.99, after reports yesterday they would be full price.

Edit -- the idea of a Donkey Konga remake baffles me though, as presumably you can't even waggle-it-up, so how can it differ from the Gamecube versions I already own (and should play again sometime)?

Jungle Beat is the platformer you played with the bongos, not the rhythm action game.

So if they expect the games to retail at £29.99, it should hopefully mean most places will sell them for £19.99.

Oh, I misread it. Mind you that's also going to be less satisfying without bongos, the boss battles were ace fun (although they were tough on the drums).

I'm not sure. They are quoting the "estimated retail price" which I read as being sticker price in shops, not the (largely meaningless) RRP.

£30 is still too expensive, unless they re-release some really hard to find stuff.

-edit- Also, isn't £30 what Wii games tend to retail now, anyway? In which case they will be full-price.

Or bundles.

Hasn't RRP gone now?

SRP, innit?

So what's that: Suggested Retail Price, as opposed to Recommended Retail Price?

only rented pikmin 1 all those ytears ago, and then bought opikmin 2, so if the optimised controls work well (and apparently some extra features, like better saving), i would buy that for 1999

jungle beat was really funny to play with the bongo (it was 4 euros some time ago on play asia), so not sure if the wii contriols will be improved

Correct. I suspect it's to allow retailer to inflate their price to offer ridiculous discounts.

"Shadow of the Beast 2. Was £129.99. Now £12.99!!!!!!! 90% OFF!!!"

No difference at all. It's the same thing with a different name. Manufacturers aren't allowed to tell retailers what price to sell at (that would be price fixing and illegal), but they can recommend or suggest an appropriate price point for the retailer to think about selling at.

I suppose 'recommended' implies that they're providing that price point based on some concept of known value, rather than just completely making it up, so suggested is more honest.

Well yes, that's what I was inferring. With a raised eyebrow.

No.

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No.

Oh.

Amazon are now selling Pikmin Wii for £24.99, like I said they might.

See here.



I have heard anecdotally that SRP can only apply to goods on shelf and RRP can apply to services and other things, but haven't seen anything to back this up.

That's cos it isn't true. They're all synonyms.

Indeed.

I wasn't arguing that though. I said that as a term, 'suggested' retail price sounds more honest.

No it doesn't.